So Solus going in one direction, PopOS going in the other direction. Xfce, your turn?
This is exciting. It seems as through the desktop they’re building is not GTK-based or at least I would assume so.
edit: It seems like it’ll be gtk-based for now.
Both Solus and PopOS are distributions, that just happen to develop their own desktop environment too. Xfce is not a distribution, but a desktop environment.
Regarding thir development, they just completed the transition to gtk3. Next step will probably be gtk4, but that won’t happen for 2-4 years (guestimate).
Similar to XFCE, the Raspberry Pi OS desktop managed to bring up their LXDE-based desktop to GTK3 as well (with the recent Raspberry Pi OS’ 32-bit bullseye release). My impression towards GTK4 is that it’s still really new-fangled, as far as actual adoption in software (beyond the gnome desktop’s use of GTK4). And there seems to be some serious dissatisfaction around the migration from GTK3 to GTK4, as it’s a rather complicated refactoring in many cases.
I’m curious to see what Pop_OS! manages to come up with…
I am currently running Pop!_OS on my main machine. I am already considering a move to Fedora, Fedora has worked out really well so far on my laptop but I’ll only move if the new Pop is not suitable. I am sure it will be quality but will I like it. Only time will tell. A lot of people put a lot of effort into these distros so its unfair to criticise them too much, either they are suitable or not.
There are other options with LXDE,
LX-Qt has just released version 1.
So it is stable if you do not mind stepping into the Qt / KDE environment.
Lots of interesting changes going on, to be sure. I do think we have to be careful about what conclusions we draw from all of this until after the dust settles. I have read quite a bit and I already have my biases but I am trying not to allow them to cloud my judgement. A peaceful separation is probably best if members of a project cannot work together adequately.
That said, I am excited to see what Pop!_OS does without the restrictions of Gnome and what Gnome can do when it can just to what Gnome does without distributions having to change bits to make it more broadly functional. Let the chips fall where they may.
Also be interesting to see if Solus breaths some more life into Enlightenment or gives up and joins PopOS in their adventures with Rust.
Not the first time we had friction in Open Source. Didn’t Gnome decide to go it alone after an initial change in Qt licensing?
But that was before my time, so …
There is constantly some kind of friction in the Linux and open source community. That’s what happens when you put people in the mix.
Quote here from KDE developer Nate Graham,
“with projects like GNOME and ElementaryOS competing to be the Apple of FOSS". You could easily take that as putting them in the firing line but it’s more positive than that as Graham continues “I think there will absolutely be room for projects like theirs; in fact I think it’s highly likely that they’ll offer a better user experience than we do for people who fit within the usage paradigms they focus on–just like Apple does”.
It’s part of why I ended up moving from GNOME to KDE myself, that flexibility of setting it all up how I want it to be, not how designers think it should be. I cannot see myself moving away from Plasma as my own desktop environment on Linux any time soon. Looks good, works well and doesn’t get in the way of gaming.”
As posted on GamingonLinux