End of Linux Rope

I’ve just about reached the end of rope with Linux on the desktop. No matter what distribution I try, it breaks after a couple of months at the most. Yesterday my LMDE drive stopped booting. Rolling back to the previous kernel didn’t help. Trying to restore using TimeShift didn’t help. Updating the bios and firmware from a Windows 10 SSD didn’t help. Linux just doesn’t like this hardware for whatever reason. I need an OS that isn’t going to break or freeze, but will just keep on running for years to come. Linux isn’t it on this hardware.

I swear I had your problems on Pop_OS as well. I’ve had Pop_OS break on me several times.

Manjaro fixed all my frustration. Their delay of rolling release really makes it good and keeps working things working longer.

I’ve never had much luck on Manjaro either. But I usually don’t delay updates.

What hardware exactly are you using that breaks?

The motherboard is a Corsair Hero 6. The cpu is AMD Ryzen 2700X. The gpu is a RTX 570. Corsair DDR for memory. It’s all AMD compatible hardware. No idea what the problem is.

Just connected the LMDE SSD to the laptop to see if it would boot. And the boot wouldn’t complete. It would go to grub and then to the initial LMDE splash screen but would not load the decrypt login screen. It was doing the same thing it was doing in the desktop. For additional information about two months ago I had the same problem in the LMDE drive wouldn’t completely boot. But then about 3 weeks ago I was about to intall Qubes on that drive but it started booting again until yesterday morning.

Do you mean the Crosshair 6 Hero? I don’t think Corsair produces motherboards.

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Linux Mint Debian Edition? I’ve never trusted that distro to be stable to even want to try it once. Why not Linux Mint Cinnamon, where by far, the most bug-fixing efforts are being concentrated, making for the smoothest experience, owing to it’s vastly greater popularity? Popularity in a Linux distro really buys you something, which is my point here.

My philosophy is to never stray out of the top 10 most popular distros as listed on distrowatch.com. Sure, those distros may have some little philosophically-annoying problem or other, but the sheer volume of bug-fixes those most-popular distros get, makes up for a lack of philosophically-correct perfection.

I use MX Linux, which is number one there. It has a few rough edges, but it “goes the distance” for me. I seek speed, longevity and popularity, when I choose a distro, and the desktop merely needs to be sensible, and not be annoying or get in my way (and I don’t go for “sexiness”, as that’s something I can live without).

Having too idealistic a demand for philosophical purity in a linux distro will heavily tax you, when one strays too far from the mainstream distros, into what I call “death by 1000 papercuts land”, which is where you seem to be.

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Oh so true


Erm, you know that Distrowatch is not a good metric of popularity, right? I mean, the top ten distros on it are among some of the most popular ones, but it only measures hits on that distro’s page on Distrowatch, not their official website, in search results, or any metric that doesn’t just measure distrohoppers looking at the newest releases. I can say definitively that MX is not more popular than Ubuntu.


What’s the model of your LMDE SSD? I think you should run some tests on it because I’m wondering if there’s some hardware failure on it.

Im thinking its his mobo’s SATA controller because other disks have similar quirks

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I’m pretty sure DistroWatch is pretty accurate, because I just checked and MY FAVORITE distro is listed near the top. :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue:
Don’t believe me? check it out! :innocent:

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… or soon will be. :stuck_out_tongue:

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I mean, I personally think it’s not high enough! Pop!_OS is my third-choice distro.

Here’s an amusing video. I participated in the prank, and although it didn’t quite succeed, it was fun. :grinning:

If I were you, I would try MX Linux. They seem to have great hardware compatibility. Although it is Debian based so it may have the same issues as you are having with LMDE. I would also try openSUSE, first Leap as it is a static release. If you like the rolling, try Tumbleweed. I have an Intel / AMD and an AMD / AMD system that seems to work real well with Tumbleweed. My Nvidia systems seem to work better with Leap.

I am wondering if you have some kind of hardware failure, actually. Some distros have a hardware test thing you can run before you install it. I know that MX does and I am pretty sure that openSUSE does too but I’m not sure as I haven’t run it recently.

Hope that helps.


This booting issue can happen if you remove drives from your computer without updating the fstab, I’ve also seen this happen when reformatting a partition, when multi booting for example to install a second or third OS, GRUB will panick if it isn’t updated correctly and suddenly the bootable options are not the same.

Both of these have occurred on Linux Mint in my case.

You can boot from a usb drive and use the disks utility to run some tests on the drive though. That would be a start. Other than that, we only know enough to speculate.

When it fails to boot do you end up in a terminal or shell at all?

Since the problem persists when connected to your laptop I’m going to say it’s either the drive itself or something has happened to the install, like the fstab or GRUB problems I mentioned before.

The windows SSD did boot fine no problems though. @haroldcrews says he booted from it to install new drivers for the mobo but that didn’t fix the LMDE boot issue.

If I’m understanding this correctly, the only issues occur with this one drive with LMDE on it.

I’ve heard this before, is there a better centralized source for judging “real” popularity or is this the best we have for now?

If you want to throw a hammer at the problem you’d want Debian Stable. I’ve been on it for years through multiple hardware setups and as you might expect it just never ever breaks.

If you need newer software you can use Flatpacks, backports, Snaps or just run it in a VM like LXC or KVM.

I’m transitioning to Debian Testing but haven’t had enough experience to fully recommend it. I’ve run it for 6 months in the past without a hitch but give me a few years and i’ll shoot you a recommendation. :stuck_out_tongue:

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