About Yandex Browser

Hi there,

I use Firefox as my default, but sometimes certain websites seem to not work well on Firefox, almost like, purposely.

So I want to ask how reliable is Yandex browser as a fallback, is it worse than Chrome itself? or Opera?

I am not a coder, I cannot smell bad code if it slap me in the face. So, what are you using as fallback, if you needed one.

Cheers.

My personal opinion is to not use anything Chrome/Chromium based (Especially that Chinese owned Spyware, Opera Browser). Reason being, it is owned/controlled by Google. Some of those web sites which you may be having issues is because over 90% of browser usage is on Chromium based browsers. Do you really want to give Google that much power over the web?

Some will say “but muh open source!” The problem with that idea is while, yes it can be forked, the issue comes up when Google pushes a change. Those Chromium forks still have to identify themselves as Chromium. So when Google pushes a change on Chromium, the web site developers will adapt to that change. If the forks do not follow, their browsers will either start to show broken sites, or saying they do not support their browser.

Switching over will just make things worse. If you got a problem with a site, complain to the webmaster, or the company.

My advice would to be use forks of Firefox. Reason being is Mozilla has started politicizing their add-on store.

My backup browser is either brave or chromium. I prefer Brave, but for some reason ended up using chromium for facebook only.

But, yes, it’s really weird that one of the most popular websites on the world doesn’t work at all on second most popular browser engine.

It’s not the engine itself. The problem with forked browsers is they have to follow the changes of the source. If they don’t they can become broken. In this case Google controls it. The site developers will of course follow, and use those changes which come from Google

Chromium based browsers have well over 90% of market share. I am not sure why people keep using those, giving so much control over the web to Google.

I don’t know about purposefully in some cases but I know Google has done that for sure on things like Google Docs where they arbitrarily break things in Firefox that work in Chrome/ium.

I work on websites so I have to test in multiple browsers but my secondary for personal use in the case of a fallback like you are asking about is KDE Falkon. Falkon technically uses some pieces from Chromium but not the full stack so it isn’t exactly the same but ultimately it does help the chromium engine. This is why I almost always use Firefox but occasionally Falkon.

As for Yandex, I have no idea. I’ve never used it but if it is based on Chromium, I see no point in it any more than the other Chromium based clones.

I use Facebook exclusively through Firefox so I can use the Facebook Container addon and it is amazing. Though a browser specifically for it to isolate is another option. I am only saying that I use Firefox with FB just fine . . . although with that said, I rarely actually use FB so maybe my experience is too skewed in that sense.

I agree with this as Google has enough power in our world as it is . . . helping them amass more to the point of total dominance of the web? Firefox for me almost always . . . and by almost I mean 99.999999% of the time, I rarely use anything else but can’t say never.

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I think the best way to determine your site functions is to use correct web standards, not features of the browser.

The way anyone to check is to use https://validator.w3.org/

I have tried using GNOME Web, a HTML5 browser, and I find a lot of broken sites using it because many sites use non compliant browser commands/tags, and not web standards.

For some reason almost no links on Facebook work for me in Firefox. It’s unusable. Perhaps it’s some kind of weird problem with my configuration. I’ll try disabling different plugins again.

edit: I was blaming add-blockers but disabling them didn’t help. Turned out the problem was caused by my own Tampermonkey script. I should really be smarter about this.

All right,
It is very interesting to hear (read) how users have a lot of feelings on how they interact with the web and the choices that they make,

I appreciate the response.

I never knew that browser exists (existed?, not my mother lang), I will give it a try, see how it goes.

Thanx every one, still open for more browser choices thou, surely there are a few less known browsers that are not based on chromium.